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intervention in libya the geopolitics of libya are very very important the way it sits in north africa very close to europe there are many aspects that the europeans follow and to be very important to the european community that's one to get that he himself the dictator the sole. ruler of libya is someone who no one on the whole entire planet is fond or likes or wants to be with and the third dimension which is very very important is that he didn't he didn't stop at anything this man would have literally killed hundreds of thousands of people it may sound exaggerated but trust me on this one right now as we speak there are massacres taken place in misrata and no one can get to that we can get to them by sea can't get to them by then and then in jebel nafusa in the west of libya so let's let's let's actually characterize things in the proper context there is no. as you making today mention it is that we really believe intervention is failing to protect people that's exactly the point that people. make they're saying we asked for this intervention but it's not working ok gentlemen i want
intervention in libya the geopolitics of libya are very very important the way it sits in north africa very close to europe there are many aspects that the europeans follow and to be very important to the european community that's one to get that he himself the dictator the sole. ruler of libya is someone who no one on the whole entire planet is fond or likes or wants to be with and the third dimension which is very very important is that he didn't he didn't stop at anything this man would have...
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he has agreed to an african union plan to end eight weeks of conflict in libya allowing two mandatory and then political talks with rebels are expected to reject proposals which keep him in power. also this week a finnish priest is charged with inciting racial hatred and faces expulsion from the church after an interview with our team in which he spoke out against one of the world's most wanted terrorists local market coming up in about thirty minutes my colleague carrie johnson will be in with a full look at your news but first as the turmoil in libya continues peter lavelle . how can exploit the current chaos in the country are coming up next. for the we've got. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers. can stand. alone and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle opening the door to tear the al qaeda franchise has been largely absent from the arab awakening in north africa people appear to be embracing democracy and not radical islam however this may change the military intervention in libya and the violence in yemen could be an opportunity for al qai
he has agreed to an african union plan to end eight weeks of conflict in libya allowing two mandatory and then political talks with rebels are expected to reject proposals which keep him in power. also this week a finnish priest is charged with inciting racial hatred and faces expulsion from the church after an interview with our team in which he spoke out against one of the world's most wanted terrorists local market coming up in about thirty minutes my colleague carrie johnson will be in with...
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bombing of libya. u.s. congressmen were hoping to finally get some answers but after two hours of questioning the secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff they were still confusion about the u.s. is ending and i think a policy success would be the removal of. the khadafi regime the military mission is a limited one and does not include regime change. who the rebels are we don't have much visibility into into those who have risen against each element has its own agenda. it's pretty much a pickup ball game at this point and whether the u.s. will arm them discuss our plans if you need regarding arming the rebels they seem to be getting their butts whipped but gates and mullen pass the buck and that one's referring to the white house what if it was ok to the side of the missile in there and or at least we would clearly have a problem about how long the u.s. will stay the bottom line is no one can predict for you how long it will take. for that to happen and whether the u.s. is at war at al
bombing of libya. u.s. congressmen were hoping to finally get some answers but after two hours of questioning the secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff they were still confusion about the u.s. is ending and i think a policy success would be the removal of. the khadafi regime the military mission is a limited one and does not include regime change. who the rebels are we don't have much visibility into into those who have risen against each element has its own agenda....
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well there used to be a group in in libya the libyan islamic fighting group and this was. one of the many groups in north africa that they had some degree of association with i would tell you that what happened is they care about the government was successful in essentially crushing this group most of the of the leaders in jail and the ones that survived migrated to other places of. of conflict so this is this is why you find libyans for example in high positions with the al qaeda core in pakistan afghanistan area is because of the defeat of the levy and islamic fighting group in libya and now what happened in libya is very very before this latest crisis it's very very interesting because the they got their free government enter into. into these questions with the recently there is leaders of the libyan islamic fighting group and somehow the leadership of the group went through a process of reassessing and they examining their ideology and they and there are three now seeing violence and as a result of these a number of them were left out of prison so basically i would tel
well there used to be a group in in libya the libyan islamic fighting group and this was. one of the many groups in north africa that they had some degree of association with i would tell you that what happened is they care about the government was successful in essentially crushing this group most of the of the leaders in jail and the ones that survived migrated to other places of. of conflict so this is this is why you find libyans for example in high positions with the al qaeda core in...
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. >> nato and libya were the focus of in-depth as nato foreign ministers are in germany to discuss libya. thank you for watching. 1 which foot was it? best make that "best wishes." we don't want them getng their hopes up, do we? no, i suppose not. have always we don't want them getng thdone it.s up, do we? why should she watch the flowers? nobody really remembers,
. >> nato and libya were the focus of in-depth as nato foreign ministers are in germany to discuss libya. thank you for watching. 1 which foot was it? best make that "best wishes." we don't want them getng their hopes up, do we? no, i suppose not. have always we don't want them getng thdone it.s up, do we? why should she watch the flowers? nobody really remembers,
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he is an expert on libya. he has worked on this for many years, so he is fully prepared to analyze the events that are going on now. we are looking forward to that. after that, we have a direct henry -- derreck henry flood. he is also with the jamestown association. he has been doing a great job over the last year. we are very privileged to have him here today as he has just returned from a six-week stay in north africa, most of that was spent in libya on the front lines. he is going to have a very interesting perspective on what went on there from a firsthand knowledge of the events in their. -- there. i will be speaking on security implications for north africa and the wake of the arab revolution. my bio is in the material that was handed out if you care to have a look at that. without further ado, we can give started. -- we can get started. >> you can take the podium if you like. >> let me say that i do not have any surer view of where the egyptian revolution is going. we are in the middle of something and
he is an expert on libya. he has worked on this for many years, so he is fully prepared to analyze the events that are going on now. we are looking forward to that. after that, we have a direct henry -- derreck henry flood. he is also with the jamestown association. he has been doing a great job over the last year. we are very privileged to have him here today as he has just returned from a six-week stay in north africa, most of that was spent in libya on the front lines. he is going to have a...
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and from afghanistan to iraq now libya western countries fight to bring so-called democracy to the arab world but is it foolish foreign policy. alongside military intervention the u.s. seems to believe it can facilitate change abroad with the push of a button. it's thursday april fourteenth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster you're watching r.t. now while nato air strikes continue in libya the largest emerging countries in the world have gone together to condemn them brazil russia india china and you member south africa they're known as brics they've got together for what's largely an economic summit but where the north african political agenda is a big item on the table are two correspondents has are silly is covering a meeting and has the developments on both fronts. they want to see change in the international financial model existing right now that will benefit the developing countries market will serve her and she is one of the yes if they would like to see an alternative which has the u.s. economy is certainly hurting their economies as well another issue that they
and from afghanistan to iraq now libya western countries fight to bring so-called democracy to the arab world but is it foolish foreign policy. alongside military intervention the u.s. seems to believe it can facilitate change abroad with the push of a button. it's thursday april fourteenth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster you're watching r.t. now while nato air strikes continue in libya the largest emerging countries in the world have gone together to condemn them brazil...
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british weapons could have been used to massacre rebels in libya as a new report slams the u.k. for approving millions of dollars worth of arms deals to the arab world. and launching a space legacy three cosmonauts last off towards the international space station nearly fifty years since man first ventured to the stars. and have you with this international news live from our studios here in central moscow this is it's just past eleven pm in the russian capital and nine pm in libya and as the fight for control over the oil rich libyan coastline continues the u.s. is stepping back from its leading role in the operation washington will still oversee the logistics of the mission was encourage other nato countries to increase their military contribution he's going to change car looks at how libya could be just the start of wider u.s. goals in the region. as waves of public rage sweep through north africa and the middle east world powers jump on them as many analysts say in an attempt to direct the waves of unrest in a way that's most favorable for them in libya forging relationship w
british weapons could have been used to massacre rebels in libya as a new report slams the u.k. for approving millions of dollars worth of arms deals to the arab world. and launching a space legacy three cosmonauts last off towards the international space station nearly fifty years since man first ventured to the stars. and have you with this international news live from our studios here in central moscow this is it's just past eleven pm in the russian capital and nine pm in libya and as the...
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about libya sixty two percent of the respondents say libya turmoil is exclusively domestic problem and foreign countries should not interfere and another twenty seven percent believe into missile community should start to stop the civil war they are. ongoing conflict in libya has once again stressed the controversy awarding president obama the u.s. commander in chief with the peace prize. ok gentlemen let's go back to the nobel prize here i'd like to listen to some of the words that rock obama gave for that because maybe once he picked up his award in two thousand and let's listen to what he had to say. so i come here with an acute sense of the costs of armed conflict i face the world as it is and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the american people. for make no mistake evil does exist in the world. well if i'm going to you believe always called obama be the commander in speech i mean we have to give him that at least he speaks very well but has he tainted has he tainted the the award because there's always expediency i mean he is elected by a group of people there is someth
about libya sixty two percent of the respondents say libya turmoil is exclusively domestic problem and foreign countries should not interfere and another twenty seven percent believe into missile community should start to stop the civil war they are. ongoing conflict in libya has once again stressed the controversy awarding president obama the u.s. commander in chief with the peace prize. ok gentlemen let's go back to the nobel prize here i'd like to listen to some of the words that rock obama...
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control of libya's vast all stocks was the motive all along. now because the e.u. really know who it's actually dealing with many people all to show actually what the opposition group is made up of who are the rebels. certain to get a lot of money from this. is who the people of that are going to get this money of course a lot of these young men these young volunteers looted army uniforms on pickup trucks with virtually no experience no military training even the rebels have admitted that al-qaeda had set up bases in the east of the country and tried to infiltrate the rebels and of course among the leadership all of the rebels they are all form a key allies of good laughing so the west really doesn't know either. and their allegiances. ok daniel thanks very much indeed for that artie's daniel bushell talking to us from brussels or not as i merely said daniel brussel from bushels thanks very much indeed and i know that people have more on this in our business update a little later thanks to you. well it's always fifty years since the first man ventured into space an
control of libya's vast all stocks was the motive all along. now because the e.u. really know who it's actually dealing with many people all to show actually what the opposition group is made up of who are the rebels. certain to get a lot of money from this. is who the people of that are going to get this money of course a lot of these young men these young volunteers looted army uniforms on pickup trucks with virtually no experience no military training even the rebels have admitted that...
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you have an opposition in libya that controls part of libya. that is the situation. >> is it called the gaddafi regime? >> you can call it the gaddafi regime if you like. >> last question. >> my understanding from your comments is that you're not able to get the cessation of hostilities that you wanted. the government has promised you security. how does that work? there's fighting going on. will you be traveling with government soldiers who will protect you? will government soldiers protect w.f.p.? >> we obviously have our own security people, but the government of libya has given us assurances that they will also provide security to enable us, for example, to get through the checkpoints and get this far as we can. i am very well aware that there may come a time where, for example, the fighting is so fierce that we can get no further. we absolutely recognize that. we have to do this on the basis of the security situation that is operating at that particular moment in time. we have to take advice from our own security people about the extent to
you have an opposition in libya that controls part of libya. that is the situation. >> is it called the gaddafi regime? >> you can call it the gaddafi regime if you like. >> last question. >> my understanding from your comments is that you're not able to get the cessation of hostilities that you wanted. the government has promised you security. how does that work? there's fighting going on. will you be traveling with government soldiers who will protect you? will...
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the actions of nato in libya should return to a diplomatic level off to go beyond the limits of the un resolution so says russian foreign minister sergey lavrov at the summit with the alliance in berlin. the global financial system must be overhauled to prevent future disasters says the russian president at the start of an economic meeting in china the asian davos. international news not from our studios here in central moscow this is just past eight pm here in the russian capital and seven pm in finland where the publisher of a finnish base website affiliated with internationally wanted terrorists has gone on trial however authorities in helsinki are turning a blind eye to his extremist links and instead prosecuting we call the store sure for allegedly smuggling chechens into finland season lisa now he is following the story from outside the court. my hearing has begun in the criminal case against me store sir who is the founder and main editor of the website called cost center this is a site that according to international law and most certainly according to russell falls into the ca
the actions of nato in libya should return to a diplomatic level off to go beyond the limits of the un resolution so says russian foreign minister sergey lavrov at the summit with the alliance in berlin. the global financial system must be overhauled to prevent future disasters says the russian president at the start of an economic meeting in china the asian davos. international news not from our studios here in central moscow this is just past eight pm here in the russian capital and seven pm...
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paribas says news from libya is doing little to pacify him. i think it's a little bit early to say the results of supplies from libya these are just tentative cargoes and in the end we have a disruption to supply in excess of a million barrels per day and i don't think it's a couple of cargoes here or there that are going to shift more of the balance so until further notice supply out of libya is disrupted and this is why the market is not responding. second look at the stock markets then u.s. stops edging higher on tuesday despite reports saying u.s. non-manufacturing sector grew slowly than expected last night tech stocks are leading the gains national semiconductor that's an interesting it's seventy one percent in just one session of the texas instruments made a bid for the group worth six billion dollars. in europe markets were pretty flat for the dax absolutely flat foot see just down by one point one six percent and you credit downgrade of portugal by moody's rating agency was further dampening sentiment all eyes now on thursdays anticip
paribas says news from libya is doing little to pacify him. i think it's a little bit early to say the results of supplies from libya these are just tentative cargoes and in the end we have a disruption to supply in excess of a million barrels per day and i don't think it's a couple of cargoes here or there that are going to shift more of the balance so until further notice supply out of libya is disrupted and this is why the market is not responding. second look at the stock markets then u.s....
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a little bit of background before i arrive to libya, i write to brooke libya on february 28. the libyan conflict began as a small cluster of lawyers demonstrating on february 15 in downtown benghazi. people who have been inspired by the revolutions to libya's east egypt and weston tunisia. in less than 48 hours, by february 17, a full-scale armed revolt had broken out in urban benghazi. the libyans security forces gunned down an unknown number of protesters told by libyan civilians to be in the hundreds during what is called a day of rage, which was again on february 17. and so, with a nasty outcome of the day of rage, the libyan revolution began. but personally journey into the libyan revolt was libya was a deeply ossified closed society saved for the bangladeshi migrant workers and british patriot technicians and the odd italian tort that would come to visit greek ruins from time to time. at the lightly populated oil-producing state, libya was much unlike its neighbors, tunisia to the western egypt to its east. it saw no need throughout over four decades of gadhafi strolled
a little bit of background before i arrive to libya, i write to brooke libya on february 28. the libyan conflict began as a small cluster of lawyers demonstrating on february 15 in downtown benghazi. people who have been inspired by the revolutions to libya's east egypt and weston tunisia. in less than 48 hours, by february 17, a full-scale armed revolt had broken out in urban benghazi. the libyans security forces gunned down an unknown number of protesters told by libyan civilians to be in the...
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tomahawk missiles being fired and who knows what in libya today. i don't think it was an award of hope it was an award of wishful thinking and an award of sycophancy i mean if you look at the list i know better the prizes prize winners. you have had a lot of u.s. presidents on berlitz the year ward has been pretty tainted i don't know whether you're aware of this peter but in one thousand nine hundred eighty six someone suggested old hitler for the peace prize this was of course not taken up but he was suggested might have to mount gandhi never was awarded the peace prize so it is a pretty there's a there's a very interesting norwegian jury is frederick her family was written a book on been about the sprites and he says that the peace prize for truly from the beginning violated alfred nobel's instructions that nobel had said peace prize should only go to those people actively engaged in peace and it's been hijacked by retired norwegian politicians and a cold war academic from the past to hand it out at will and there was a lot of criticism in norwa
tomahawk missiles being fired and who knows what in libya today. i don't think it was an award of hope it was an award of wishful thinking and an award of sycophancy i mean if you look at the list i know better the prizes prize winners. you have had a lot of u.s. presidents on berlitz the year ward has been pretty tainted i don't know whether you're aware of this peter but in one thousand nine hundred eighty six someone suggested old hitler for the peace prize this was of course not taken up...
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our top stories in libya purports gadhafi is troops are targeting civilians in rebel held areas casting doubts on the success of allied military operations forces loyal to libyan leader have stepped up attacks on his own. city controlled by the opposition in the west of the country. and japanese officials say radiation is likely to leak from the quake hit from clichy well planned for at least several more months. and in a major anti terror operation russian security forces killed seventeen militants in the north caucasus this comes as moscow marks one year since the metro suicide bombings that left dozens dead and more than one hundred injured. coming up here live al his gas question the value of the nobel peace prize crosstalk coming your way. hungry for the full story we've got it from. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers. first. and. kicking. a low in welcome to crossfire kind peter lavelle is us president barack obama still an honorable recipient of the nobel peace prize to be fair he inherited two wars masoom in office but he is also a new war o
our top stories in libya purports gadhafi is troops are targeting civilians in rebel held areas casting doubts on the success of allied military operations forces loyal to libyan leader have stepped up attacks on his own. city controlled by the opposition in the west of the country. and japanese officials say radiation is likely to leak from the quake hit from clichy well planned for at least several more months. and in a major anti terror operation russian security forces killed seventeen...
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now want to libya. -- on to libya. spoken koussa ahas publicly and feared that libya will become the new somalia. the former minister was accused of being involved in the lockerbie bombing. he warned the west to avoid further turmoil in his country. >> as a libyan, i am the same as all the libyans. i ask everybody, all the parties to work to avoid taking libya into a civil war. this will lead to so many blood and libya will be a new somalia. more than that, we refuse dividing libya. the unity of libya is essential to any solution and any settlement in libya. the solution in libya will come from the libyans themselves. through discussion and dialogue. >> there with a statement that was given to the bbc. earlier, the libyan minister for social affairs had this reaction to the statement. >> he said i have known moussa for a long time but i will not comment on anything he says. a foreign country in a war situation with libya. we cannot take anything he says -- let them go outside of britain to a country that is neutral and
now want to libya. -- on to libya. spoken koussa ahas publicly and feared that libya will become the new somalia. the former minister was accused of being involved in the lockerbie bombing. he warned the west to avoid further turmoil in his country. >> as a libyan, i am the same as all the libyans. i ask everybody, all the parties to work to avoid taking libya into a civil war. this will lead to so many blood and libya will be a new somalia. more than that, we refuse dividing libya. the...
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in libya, it was different. in libya, the regime did use its military power to suppress that voice in the most brutal way. the international community passed a resolution, ultimately two resolutions which gave an ultimatum to gadhafi. when he continued to ignore the wishes of the international community, the international community acted. this was after we've been through sanctions, diplomatic pressure, all the means available to us short of military activity to persuade him to take a certain course of action. would we hope that other regimes would learn, that they should not oppress their people? of course we would. what we've seen in syria the last few days has been an appalling spectacle of despotted regime bearing down on its people in a violent and brutal way. every one of us would condemn that. is there still a chance? i would hope that there's at least a flicker of hope there. i say this for the following reason, that i was in the gulf at the time of the first speech when everybody hoped that it was going
in libya, it was different. in libya, the regime did use its military power to suppress that voice in the most brutal way. the international community passed a resolution, ultimately two resolutions which gave an ultimatum to gadhafi. when he continued to ignore the wishes of the international community, the international community acted. this was after we've been through sanctions, diplomatic pressure, all the means available to us short of military activity to persuade him to take a certain...
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libya. but first let's see what russians think about how to resolve the libyan crisis. and while many says the goal of the western led effort in libya is in question then i want the people of libya i really fell in their hour of need the public being an agency lot of said i'll stress and what the internet can do to stop the bloodshed and to protect the bins fifty one percent of those polled say they should be no intervention thirteen percent say comic sanctions against the regime is the solution to the problem twelve percent believe that is asses should be frozen ten percent think a closed space can help and seven percent support a ground operation in the the future of the libyan people is far from being clear that. ok is resized down and to do this program nato still is very very well it's actually very against are arming any groups in libya the united states britain france other members of nato are not so separate members are not so clear on it in we've heard from the us that they're getting they're entertaining the idea i've been trying to you i mean i'm i'm the bigg
libya. but first let's see what russians think about how to resolve the libyan crisis. and while many says the goal of the western led effort in libya is in question then i want the people of libya i really fell in their hour of need the public being an agency lot of said i'll stress and what the internet can do to stop the bloodshed and to protect the bins fifty one percent of those polled say they should be no intervention thirteen percent say comic sanctions against the regime is the...
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as los angeles sufi's by opposition forces in libya nato explosives were great for attacking little fine says i'm one of three in the capital city of tripoli joining me in a few moments and i'll bring you more. drop his attempts at a short sharp war in libya on giving president sarkozy the ratings boost he expected but some saying it was motivated by imperialistic ambition. as u.s. political parties keep bickering over the new budget credit agencies sell the alarm over the country's bad boring habits so it's a road straight to bankruptcy. and george's attempts to project a democratic image are tarnished by the state of its legal system but even lawyers are getting persecuted. and b.p. encountered yet another setback in its bid to join ross never to explore the arctic shelf in russia this is out of the so-called arbitration tribunals i'll hold an injunction blocking the deal more about in twenty minutes time. international news live from our studios here in central moscow this is r.t. post nine pm here in the russian capital and seven pm in libya where at least four russian journalists ha
as los angeles sufi's by opposition forces in libya nato explosives were great for attacking little fine says i'm one of three in the capital city of tripoli joining me in a few moments and i'll bring you more. drop his attempts at a short sharp war in libya on giving president sarkozy the ratings boost he expected but some saying it was motivated by imperialistic ambition. as u.s. political parties keep bickering over the new budget credit agencies sell the alarm over the country's bad boring...
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long way and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle arming to win the conflict in libya has reached a stalemate should western powers expand their intervention and arm the and take it off the rebels would this be tantamount to choosing sides in a growing civil war and as time passes there's an end game in libya become even more elusive. can. you discuss the ongoing still meet in libya i'm joined by jim elder marty he's in london he is a libyan writer and political activists he's also a british coordinator for the rebel interim national council of libya in washington we have ivan eland he's a senior fellow and director of the center on peace in liberty at the independent institute and in tucson we have a lot hudson she is an associate professor of near east studies at the university of arizona and another member of our crosstalk team on the hunger all right this is cross talk i mean he can jump in anytime you want. i could go to tucson should view the united states and its western allies one way or another legally or illegally or a split the difference between the law and what we wan
long way and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle arming to win the conflict in libya has reached a stalemate should western powers expand their intervention and arm the and take it off the rebels would this be tantamount to choosing sides in a growing civil war and as time passes there's an end game in libya become even more elusive. can. you discuss the ongoing still meet in libya i'm joined by jim elder marty he's in london he is a libyan writer and political activists he's also a british...
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and why libya? a lot of my friends thoughtfully asked the question, why of all of the countries involved in the region are we going to get involved in every single one of them? but you know, if you're approached on the street by somebody asking you for a few cents and has their hand out and tells you their story and they're in need, and you're trying to figure out whether or not to reach in your pocket and help or not, because there are so many beggars out there to help, but suddenly all of the street people say to you, help that one, maybe you have to take a look at that. and this is the first time that i can think of when not just one arab nation, but the entire arab league, which seems to be in a bit of difficulty on every individual basis says to you, help that one. maybe there's cause for the exceptionalism that the president has indicated here. so i -- i want to thank him, and you, and the administration for taking the actions that they're taking. i mean this dictator in that country, who has
and why libya? a lot of my friends thoughtfully asked the question, why of all of the countries involved in the region are we going to get involved in every single one of them? but you know, if you're approached on the street by somebody asking you for a few cents and has their hand out and tells you their story and they're in need, and you're trying to figure out whether or not to reach in your pocket and help or not, because there are so many beggars out there to help, but suddenly all of the...
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thomas friedman noted that libya is not a nation. there is no loyalty to libya. it is a collection of 140 different tribes and much more like a rock. are we now aiding and abetting the same organizations we're fighting in afghanistan and iraq? >> to be honest, other than a handful of leaders, we do not have much visibility into those who have risen against gaddafi. speaking of the "opposition" is a misnomer. it is very disparate. it is very scattered. each element probably has its own agenda. s that have town' risen up in the west where resistance has been " basically did so on their own. you did not see people going from one town to the next to share in the fight. that is one of the problems those who have rebelled against gaddafi are facing -- the lack of command and control and organization. there are multiple agendas. their disparate elements across the country engaged in this. -- there are disparate elements across the country engaged in this. we do not have much visibility into that. >> lig is in fact a major component of the opposition? >> i am not aware.
thomas friedman noted that libya is not a nation. there is no loyalty to libya. it is a collection of 140 different tribes and much more like a rock. are we now aiding and abetting the same organizations we're fighting in afghanistan and iraq? >> to be honest, other than a handful of leaders, we do not have much visibility into those who have risen against gaddafi. speaking of the "opposition" is a misnomer. it is very disparate. it is very scattered. each element probably has...
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libya is a tribal country and maybe forever? the world is moving even in libya. i want to give you a little information. in the national council of transition you have 11 known members and 20 unknown members. do you know why they are unknown? because they precisely belong to what you call the tribes of qaddafi. the tribe of qaddafi himself, it would have members of the rebel i don't know shadow belonging to the tribe of qaddafi and you have 18 others... >> can i... >> wait a minute. who are kept secret for security reasons because they believe to these tribes. libya is changing. you have a wind of... little wind, maybe. there will be some counter wind probably but a wind of liberty, of freedom, of citizenship, whatever. i believe that there is real... we were completely convinced that the arab world was stuck into authority and condemned to know democracy. they are giving us a great lesson, a lesson of values which we thought being only ours and we should be happy you and me. the three of us together at that. >> rose: let's go back to ben for a closing. >> is thi
libya is a tribal country and maybe forever? the world is moving even in libya. i want to give you a little information. in the national council of transition you have 11 known members and 20 unknown members. do you know why they are unknown? because they precisely belong to what you call the tribes of qaddafi. the tribe of qaddafi himself, it would have members of the rebel i don't know shadow belonging to the tribe of qaddafi and you have 18 others... >> can i... >> wait a minute....
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the example of libya. you want civil war. three points -- three points, sorry. algeria's point of view should be listened to resolve the crisis. they know how to negotiate. they have done it for so many years including the american hostages in iran in the 1980s. if algeria can play a role, they should be encouraged to do so. maybe it can offer gadhafi and his family some kind of exile. second point, assurances of some kind should be given to the tribe in western libya still fighting with the regime. if you want them to switch sides, you have to offer them an incentive in doing so. this should not be seen as the trail to gadhafi's own tribe. it should be seen as a kind of deal where gadhafi's tribe itself that if he and his family go to exile, it's not betrayal to get back with the gadhafi regimement finally, your actions in libya may turn out to be a genius masterpiece of brilliant foreign policy. it could resolve your long running struggle with the jihaddists in the middle east, or at least most of them.
the example of libya. you want civil war. three points -- three points, sorry. algeria's point of view should be listened to resolve the crisis. they know how to negotiate. they have done it for so many years including the american hostages in iran in the 1980s. if algeria can play a role, they should be encouraged to do so. maybe it can offer gadhafi and his family some kind of exile. second point, assurances of some kind should be given to the tribe in western libya still fighting with the...
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and push for military operations exclusively against libya where i hear. but i think that in part momar khadafi was sort of low hanging fruit and was a pariah that was despised by much of the world and is someone that the united states i think felt going to war against would be easier to to get international coalition together on and to sell to the american public particularly and we've seen this come out as one of the narratives as to why the united states is libya although this was not one of the stated reasons when the u.s. went to the u.n. but the bombing of pan am flight one hundred three you heard everyone from john mccain to progressive t.v. host ed schultz using that as an excuse to justify this u.s. bombing the fact is though that the u.n. security council resolution one nine hundred seventy three that was passed was very narrowly passed because five very powerful countries china russia brazil india and germany abstained their populations represent a majority of the citizens of the world as represented on the security council so i think that the u
and push for military operations exclusively against libya where i hear. but i think that in part momar khadafi was sort of low hanging fruit and was a pariah that was despised by much of the world and is someone that the united states i think felt going to war against would be easier to to get international coalition together on and to sell to the american public particularly and we've seen this come out as one of the narratives as to why the united states is libya although this was not one of...
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could syria be the new libya europe and the u.s. consider sanctions in response to a violent and deadly crackdown on anti-government protesters. prime minister vladimir putin may hit stop itself with the use of force including flick torn nations saying politicians are not practicing what they preach. also reporting this hour to you protection abomination the french government puts on the streets to protect against terrorism but some members of the public say they feel targeted and spied on. and we focus on the north caucuses to find out why it's become a hot spot for terrorists using islam it's on young muslims into extremists. international news live from our studios here in central moscow this is r.t. where it's just past ten pm in the russian capital and the syrian army is sending in more tanks and reinforcements as part of a crackdown against anti-government protesters in the south or more the u.n. is urging an investigation into the government then violence washington is pushing for sanctions some believe the west may be gearin
could syria be the new libya europe and the u.s. consider sanctions in response to a violent and deadly crackdown on anti-government protesters. prime minister vladimir putin may hit stop itself with the use of force including flick torn nations saying politicians are not practicing what they preach. also reporting this hour to you protection abomination the french government puts on the streets to protect against terrorism but some members of the public say they feel targeted and spied on. and...
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we see that in libya. and that we can't engage as we have in the past in these massive troop commitments that go on indefinitely. >> would you put a number on what the withdrawal has to be by july? >> it's hard for me to say that. i don't want to endanger troops that there are. i think what the americans are looking for and the president is looking for is a clear indication we're coming home. >> we'll get to libya in a moment. i want to talk about the big budget battle. we could have a government shutdown if the two sides don't come together. is that where this is headed? >> i hope not. this is the warmup. as important as it is to finish appropriation for the next six months of this year, we have a much, much bigger battle ahead of us in the next few weeks. we don't want to see the government shut down. speak eer boehner is in a difficult and tough political position. i see the problems he's facing. we have to put this behind us. we agreed on a number as to the cut. now we have to agree on the component pa
we see that in libya. and that we can't engage as we have in the past in these massive troop commitments that go on indefinitely. >> would you put a number on what the withdrawal has to be by july? >> it's hard for me to say that. i don't want to endanger troops that there are. i think what the americans are looking for and the president is looking for is a clear indication we're coming home. >> we'll get to libya in a moment. i want to talk about the big budget battle. we...
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any outcome in libya we cannot do that nor do we have the right to determine who the leader of libya should be many fear radical forces could take advantage of the chaos in libya former jihadist noman badman who renounces all quiet affiliation in two thousand says he has two mates one thousand jihadists are among the rebels in libya one levy and rebel commander has openly admitted his fighters have links other reports say terrorists seized libyan surface to air missiles when arsenals were looted nato intelligence reports claim flickers of al qaida and hezbollah have been found among the rebels in libya but maintained there is no reason to believe their presence is significant but a u.s. military study three years ago said lidia's made up the second largest group of jihadists in the world right after saudi arabia all of that seems to be discarded as the u.s. is trying to prop up the opposition in libya as some analysts say in an attempt to forge a relationship with them that would be favorable for the united states in the future but experts say as of now the opposition in libya hardly
any outcome in libya we cannot do that nor do we have the right to determine who the leader of libya should be many fear radical forces could take advantage of the chaos in libya former jihadist noman badman who renounces all quiet affiliation in two thousand says he has two mates one thousand jihadists are among the rebels in libya one levy and rebel commander has openly admitted his fighters have links other reports say terrorists seized libyan surface to air missiles when arsenals were...
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forces continue to impose a no fly zone over libya there are concerns that. europe security experts. plotting terror attacks in revenge for strikes. e.u. countries have taken the lead role in forcing the u.n. resolution but their efforts all the way over in libya now threaten to bring conflict right to their very own back doors i list claim colonel gadhafi now has little other weapons left in his armory that oversees terror he's faced repeated accusations that he ordered lockerbie bombing that killed two hundred seventy mostly westerners and experts say some countries are particularly in the firing line three leading countries of the offensive operation that means from. united states of course the only. really is to use their right so i think. it's a clear cut in prison ventra today in the coming days in the coming weeks but e.u. backing for and dribbles could backfire further rebel leaders include the libyan islamic fighting group and associates of al qaida and the casualties mounting every day from allied bombing make fertile recruiting ground for and she w
forces continue to impose a no fly zone over libya there are concerns that. europe security experts. plotting terror attacks in revenge for strikes. e.u. countries have taken the lead role in forcing the u.n. resolution but their efforts all the way over in libya now threaten to bring conflict right to their very own back doors i list claim colonel gadhafi now has little other weapons left in his armory that oversees terror he's faced repeated accusations that he ordered lockerbie bombing that...
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libya and our airstrikes against libya are going to cause i mean already i'm hearing but cher's you know he was yelling before that the people revolted against him so. now he's going to cia is this is this did that in in serbia and will there in bosnia will and will this in the middle east to make it more difficult frankly for democracy movements to emerge. i think that's a difficult question to answer i'll give you my two cents on where where i see things stand as they stand right now in egypt i think where the u.s. back to cater ship of hosni mubarak was brought down by this popular uprising there's a real risk that there are that the that egypt will enter a sustained period of mubarak after mubarak where some of his thugs and henchmen and apparatchiks end up essentially running the country in the same way that mubarak was running it and i think that it really is up to primarily the young people in that country to really stay consistent and energetic in trying to say no that's not what we fought for but that revolution could very well go the way of returning to the status quo of the mu
libya and our airstrikes against libya are going to cause i mean already i'm hearing but cher's you know he was yelling before that the people revolted against him so. now he's going to cia is this is this did that in in serbia and will there in bosnia will and will this in the middle east to make it more difficult frankly for democracy movements to emerge. i think that's a difficult question to answer i'll give you my two cents on where where i see things stand as they stand right now in egypt...
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in guys the libya. well we caught up with hugo here in moscow sharing his experience there in libya with us in the studio. i came back from benghazi maybe over a week ago spent two weeks there. with the rebels themselves myself they are pretty badly organized many of them are young many of them on teenagers who just got their hands on kalashnikov rifles and are constantly shooting just in the air in the city so when they're either celebrating something or commemorating something it seemed to me it was actually even more dangerous to be inside because of that rather than on the front because everybody just sporadically should be got these guns from got a few troops when they retreated so when we're talking about their actions on the front they're fully trained one of our teams was at the front they got caught by a mortar attack so when everybody was running back. from the front they saw how the rebels were actually running faster. than our team was with me and european countries now saying that they're g
in guys the libya. well we caught up with hugo here in moscow sharing his experience there in libya with us in the studio. i came back from benghazi maybe over a week ago spent two weeks there. with the rebels themselves myself they are pretty badly organized many of them are young many of them on teenagers who just got their hands on kalashnikov rifles and are constantly shooting just in the air in the city so when they're either celebrating something or commemorating something it seemed to me...
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here in archie our many sonali with the latest in a look back at the week's top stories we begin in libya where programs are few forces in the country are attempting to recapture the west the third largest city in a strong and the last rebel stronghold left in the west and has been under attack for weeks now are one of polls here in the capital tripoli with more. but word of bloodshed is increasingly been used to describe the situation in the last rebel held city in the west of this country the city of misrata now according to doctors on the scene they say that one person was killed and several people were wounded in the early hours of sunday morning when the government forces renewed shelling on a building in the city and we understand from the doctors that and turn a few days ago there were number of civilians being housed inside that building they have been injured in recent clashes between pro and anti gadhafi forces but fortunately there have been evacuated before the shelling began we are also hearing from doctors that in the last week alone one hundred and sixty people have been ki
here in archie our many sonali with the latest in a look back at the week's top stories we begin in libya where programs are few forces in the country are attempting to recapture the west the third largest city in a strong and the last rebel stronghold left in the west and has been under attack for weeks now are one of polls here in the capital tripoli with more. but word of bloodshed is increasingly been used to describe the situation in the last rebel held city in the west of this country the...
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intention to launch a ground operation in libya what do you think. well i think that obama is genuinely reluctant to become and loyal to the u.s. a roof on the ground because americans are already overextended in afghanistan and there's talk that they may not in the end kolo to iraq. what he's offering the world of three. heads of state. cameron circles here and obama is certainly one sided they want codepage of kobe for more on the cities where there is conflict but he after is nothing they offered nothing in return they and other countries so you it will continue. their support for their rebels and i think that is becoming a where all here in the world are. there's an expression in america mission creep there when you start doing right and saying that the pressure builds up to do more and more because no general likes to admit that he did something that failed and so then they are for something more and. not a total surprise that we're getting trucks. troops on the ground and in england somebody has said there should put predator. troops in there w
intention to launch a ground operation in libya what do you think. well i think that obama is genuinely reluctant to become and loyal to the u.s. a roof on the ground because americans are already overextended in afghanistan and there's talk that they may not in the end kolo to iraq. what he's offering the world of three. heads of state. cameron circles here and obama is certainly one sided they want codepage of kobe for more on the cities where there is conflict but he after is nothing they...
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as more rebels are killed by the blows of air strikes in libya are libyans who were once singing nato's praises now crying out against the coalition in outrage. and the organization the u.s. went to to lead that intervention in libya becomes the punching bag of lawmakers on capitol hill are they really concerned with reforming the united nations or other interests at stake. we must maintain firm ties with our allies and enemies must be clearly identified i hope that this administration can tell who's who so which one is ileana ros layton and ally or enemy whether you love her or hate her there is never a dull moment with this congresswoman we'll take a look at foreign affairs iraq colored glasses. that evening it's thursday april seventh eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster you're watching our team now it's fighting continues in libya are the tides turning a rebels now turning on nato for failing libyan rebels blamed a mistaken nato air strike today for killing up to seven some doctors on the ground reported thirteen later a rebel spokeswoman and some eyewitnesses on the g
as more rebels are killed by the blows of air strikes in libya are libyans who were once singing nato's praises now crying out against the coalition in outrage. and the organization the u.s. went to to lead that intervention in libya becomes the punching bag of lawmakers on capitol hill are they really concerned with reforming the united nations or other interests at stake. we must maintain firm ties with our allies and enemies must be clearly identified i hope that this administration can tell...
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there are people in libya who also recognize that there are cia people among the libyan opposition the guy who came back from northern virginia for twenty years who is now one of the commanders of the military is somebody who clearly was involved with u.s. intelligence during that period there is a mixed bag of the libyan opposition in terms of what people have asked for what they want the other thing that i think is makes this all very problematic is that in the context of the of the arab spring we're in each of these situations they began whether it was egypt whether it was tunisia whether it's been yemen bahrain all of them have faced massive military assault at the beginning only in libya was the decision made to take up arms i'm not going to second guess that this is not in the morning there are two hundred one says you are. right on this why is it why is it with. the structure of the national it's. my job. why is it is because those products are very good why is it different because it used now with these different i do think. but i personally think that it's a numbers going on i
there are people in libya who also recognize that there are cia people among the libyan opposition the guy who came back from northern virginia for twenty years who is now one of the commanders of the military is somebody who clearly was involved with u.s. intelligence during that period there is a mixed bag of the libyan opposition in terms of what people have asked for what they want the other thing that i think is makes this all very problematic is that in the context of the of the arab...